Sorry I haven't posted in a day or so. Jeff from www.feebleminds-gifs.com gave me some pretty good hints on improving the www.birdtlc.net website. I've been working on it. He sent me another e-mail this morning (in response to one of mine) with some more. I'll knock those out this afternoon. I like it when people give you a no holds back feedback. Dancing around trying not to hurt someone's feelings usually hides the truth. Thanks Jeff! I'll be back here when I finish @ the site.